Comments on: Is one cell phone enough? http://skydeck.com/blog/phones/is-one-cell-phone-enough Your Cell Phone Online Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:47:06 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Karly http://skydeck.com/blog/phones/is-one-cell-phone-enough/comment-page-1#comment-1047 Karly Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:15:08 +0000 http://skydeck.com/blog/mobilemarket/is-one-cell-phone-enough/#comment-1047 Interesting article. I think the reason for the lack of the 2 line cell is the fact that phone companies have opportunity to make more money, but anyway I found a way around it I found this website <a href="http://www.secondvoice.com" rel="nofollow">www.secondvoice.com</a> that let's you add a second line to any cell. It works alright and is way way way cheaper than carrying two cells. My other option would have been to get the iPhone and download skype on it, but who wants to do that. Interesting article. I think the reason for the lack of the 2 line cell is the fact that phone companies have opportunity to make more money, but anyway I found a way around it I found this website http://www.secondvoice.com that let's you add a second line to any cell. It works alright and is way way way cheaper than carrying two cells. My other option would have been to get the iPhone and download skype on it, but who wants to do that.

]]> By: Jess Porter http://skydeck.com/blog/phones/is-one-cell-phone-enough/comment-page-1#comment-736 Jess Porter Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:37:24 +0000 http://skydeck.com/blog/mobilemarket/is-one-cell-phone-enough/#comment-736 Hello: I am told their are cell phones with 2 or more slots for SIM cards, this would give you 2 different phone numbers on the same mobile phone. Also the FCC--Federal Communications Commission States the following Here: http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=operations_5&id=cellular Multiple Phones With Same Number A subscriber may have multiple phones with the same telephone number. However, there are restrictions. Each individual phone must have a unique Electronic Serial Number (ESN). The ESN is a unique number programmed into each cellular telephone at the time it is manufactured and is used by the cellular carrier to identify a telephone to determine whether the user of that phone is entitled to obtain service and to insure that the proper accounting is made of all activity. Most cellular phone emulators or extension services simply "clone" cellular phones, duplicating not only the telephone number but also the ESN. The Commission considers any knowing use of cellular telephone with an altered ESN to be a violation of the Communications Act (Section 301) and alteration of the ESN in a cellular telephone to be assisting in such violation. It is possible to obtain two cellular phones with the same telephone number as long as the cellular carrier in the market has the software in place to handle the billing and its fraud detection system won't be triggered by the use of two phones with the same phone number. Jess Porter Hello:

I am told their are cell phones with 2 or more slots for SIM cards, this would give you 2 different phone numbers on the same mobile phone.

Also the FCC–Federal Communications Commission States the following Here:

http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=operations_5&id=cellular

Multiple Phones With Same Number

A subscriber may have multiple phones with the same telephone number. However, there are restrictions. Each individual phone must have a unique Electronic Serial Number (ESN). The ESN is a unique number programmed into each cellular telephone at the time it is manufactured and is used by the cellular carrier to identify a telephone to determine whether the user of that phone is entitled to obtain service and to insure that the proper accounting is made of all activity. Most cellular phone emulators or extension services simply “clone” cellular phones, duplicating not only the telephone number but also the ESN. The Commission considers any knowing use of cellular telephone with an altered ESN to be a violation of the Communications Act (Section 301) and alteration of the ESN in a cellular telephone to be assisting in such violation.
It is possible to obtain two cellular phones with the same telephone number as long as the cellular carrier in the market has the software in place to handle the billing and its fraud detection system won’t be triggered by the use of two phones with the same phone number.

Jess Porter

]]> By: Ryan Abraham http://skydeck.com/blog/phones/is-one-cell-phone-enough/comment-page-1#comment-735 Ryan Abraham Sun, 05 Apr 2009 23:09:27 +0000 http://skydeck.com/blog/mobilemarket/is-one-cell-phone-enough/#comment-735 I carry two cell phones I am an executive director of a fundraiser so that is my blackberry and then I have a iPhone that only friends and family get the number to. It sucks getting ready to sit down and crack open a brew to have a call come in for your business. I would love to have one cell with two lines with the option to turn one or the other off when you dont want to listen to it ring, but I dont know if that is possible. I carry two cell phones
I am an executive director of a fundraiser so that is my blackberry and then I have a iPhone that only friends and family get the number to.
It sucks getting ready to sit down and crack open a brew to have a call come in for your business.

I would love to have one cell with two lines with the option to turn one or the other off when you dont want to listen to it ring, but I dont know if that is possible.

]]> By: Dean Bubley http://skydeck.com/blog/phones/is-one-cell-phone-enough/comment-page-1#comment-734 Dean Bubley Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:32:08 +0000 http://skydeck.com/blog/mobilemarket/is-one-cell-phone-enough/#comment-734 Sorry, wrong link in my previous comment, should have been: http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2007/09/multiplicity-in-action-16-phones-per.html Sorry, wrong link in my previous comment, should have been:
http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2007/09/multiplicity-in-action-16-phones-per.html

]]> By: Dean Bubley http://skydeck.com/blog/phones/is-one-cell-phone-enough/comment-page-1#comment-733 Dean Bubley Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:31:18 +0000 http://skydeck.com/blog/mobilemarket/is-one-cell-phone-enough/#comment-733 This all comes down to individual choice. In the UK, there's about 1.6 active SIMs per user, and many people have 2 or 3 devices. http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/01/mobile-vs-fixed-internet-users-2-its.html I often meet people from the mobile industry who say "surely everyone would prefer a single device if they could have multiple numbers / all the features / work & personal 'personalities' etc. Yes, some would. But plenty of others actively want two devices and two (or more) numbers. Even leaving aside the idea that you want one device with a Qwerty for work email, and another with a 5MP camera that looks cool, and a 3G USB modem for your laptop, there's plenty of other reasons to have 2+ phones as highlighted in this article. A classic case I see here in the UK is teenagers who get given a phone by their parents.... but also get a cheap phone of their own on prepay to contact their friends, share content, send SMSs to their boyfriends/girlfriends and so on, without risking their parents being able to intercept it or cap their usage. This all comes down to individual choice. In the UK, there’s about 1.6 active SIMs per user, and many people have 2 or 3 devices.

http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/01/mobile-vs-fixed-internet-users-2-its.html

I often meet people from the mobile industry who say “surely everyone would prefer a single device if they could have multiple numbers / all the features / work & personal ‘personalities’ etc.

Yes, some would. But plenty of others actively want two devices and two (or more) numbers. Even leaving aside the idea that you want one device with a Qwerty for work email, and another with a 5MP camera that looks cool, and a 3G USB modem for your laptop, there’s plenty of other reasons to have 2+ phones as highlighted in this article.

A classic case I see here in the UK is teenagers who get given a phone by their parents…. but also get a cheap phone of their own on prepay to contact their friends, share content, send SMSs to their boyfriends/girlfriends and so on, without risking their parents being able to intercept it or cap their usage.

]]> By: Dennis Blank http://skydeck.com/blog/phones/is-one-cell-phone-enough/comment-page-1#comment-732 Dennis Blank Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:43:51 +0000 http://skydeck.com/blog/mobilemarket/is-one-cell-phone-enough/#comment-732 I carry a Blackberry for phone and email while working and have a second line and small cell phone for off-hours. it is more convenience to carry and doesn't require repeated entry of an security code, required by my employer to protect the corporate web site. I carry a Blackberry for phone and email while working and have a second line and small cell phone for off-hours. it is more convenience to carry and doesn’t require repeated entry of an security code, required by my employer to protect the corporate web site.

]]> By: David J http://skydeck.com/blog/phones/is-one-cell-phone-enough/comment-page-1#comment-731 David J Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:23:22 +0000 http://skydeck.com/blog/mobilemarket/is-one-cell-phone-enough/#comment-731 @Samuel A. Falvo II: fair enough about the phone itself, but if you get a separate bill for each line then I expect that you could treat your business phone bill as a business expense. @Samuel A. Falvo II: fair enough about the phone itself, but if you get a separate bill for each line then I expect that you could treat your business phone bill as a business expense.

]]> By: etesh mangray http://skydeck.com/blog/phones/is-one-cell-phone-enough/comment-page-1#comment-730 etesh mangray Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:24:47 +0000 http://skydeck.com/blog/mobilemarket/is-one-cell-phone-enough/#comment-730 great research jason. great research jason.

]]> By: Samuel A. Falvo II http://skydeck.com/blog/phones/is-one-cell-phone-enough/comment-page-1#comment-729 Samuel A. Falvo II Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:57:57 +0000 http://skydeck.com/blog/mobilemarket/is-one-cell-phone-enough/#comment-729 @David J: IRS tax laws stipulate that you must account for your personal-vs-business property when filing for taxes. Using your phone for both personal and business uses (regardless of how many lines it supports) could complicate matters (one month, it could be used for 75% personal, the next only 25%). Having two phones makes tax reporting that much easier. @David J:

IRS tax laws stipulate that you must account for your personal-vs-business property when filing for taxes. Using your phone for both personal and business uses (regardless of how many lines it supports) could complicate matters (one month, it could be used for 75% personal, the next only 25%). Having two phones makes tax reporting that much easier.

]]> By: Owen Rooney http://skydeck.com/blog/phones/is-one-cell-phone-enough/comment-page-1#comment-728 Owen Rooney Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:33:01 +0000 http://skydeck.com/blog/mobilemarket/is-one-cell-phone-enough/#comment-728 We have the same situation here in Europe. Often employees have a Pre-pay phone for personal use and a contract phone for business or people use their business phone for personal calls (sometimes up to 40%) We are have developed an app that resides on the handset which the user can tag the call as personal or business. It shall only present the calls that have not previously been tagged. Employees like it as they can have the freedom to use 1 handset for all usage and they can avail of much better tarriffs. Employers like it as they can control usage and are fully Tax compliant as the mobile phone is increasingly seen as a "benefit in kind" by our Tax authorities. We have the same situation here in Europe. Often employees have a Pre-pay phone for personal use and a contract phone for business or people use their business phone for personal calls (sometimes up to 40%)

We are have developed an app that resides on the handset which the user can tag the call as personal or business. It shall only present the calls that have not previously been tagged.

Employees like it as they can have the freedom to use 1 handset for all usage and they can avail of much better tarriffs. Employers like it as they can control usage and are fully Tax compliant as the mobile phone is increasingly seen as a “benefit in kind” by our Tax authorities.

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